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Jose Fabian NewGuy
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: Going tankless? |
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Hey everyone, nice to be a part of these forums.
So I've been thinking the last couple of days about how to get rid of pressurized tanks, everything from motorized belts to pistons and whatnot.
I finally came up with this, and I haven't worked out the numbers, nor am I in a state of mind to do it, but I'd like to post it to see if anyone thinks it's worthwhile:
How about using the principles of a coil gun to propel a hammer that pressurizes air
A) for each shot
B) stores it in an internal tank that transfers it to a valve.
I haven't thought about practicality yet, it's late here and I haven't had much sleep. Does it seem feasible to make a kit that would modify existing markers to use this system? Or does it seem better to create a new one? I would just go for a personal model and could make a prototype with the right amount of advice shopping for components. Would be open for any future enterprise and have some capital :D
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Jose Fabian NewGuy
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Actually worked it out, and it could be done but very badly.
I think the alternative would be have a compressor and use a pressure, closer to what's needed for a single paintball shot, and have enough for 30 effective shots. Have that whole assembly in the stock of the marker
Then have a good enough rechargeable battery to be used for 1 refill of the tank, and put that in the magazine and have contacts on where it connects to the marker, so that changing magazines would effectively be changing batteries. I think it would be a good and ideal approach to a milsim marker, limited shots to 30 or such a number per magazine, and no huge tanks to carry around. |
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Ydna Burnout

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 722 Location: Adrian MI
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds sorta-kinda like the Evolt concept...though I don't know too much about their specifics. Well not the coil gun part, but the charging for one ball part. lol _________________ ...Someone who had begun to learn geometry with Euclid, when he had learnt the first theorem, asked "What shall I get by learning these things?" Euclid called his slave and said "Give him threepence since he must gain out of what he learns" |
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Jose Fabian NewGuy
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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yeah
i abandoned the coilgun, and am just looking for a compressor.
i actually want to charge for several shots. |
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jwigum Burnout

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 252 Location: Fair Oaks, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect you'll be hard pressed to find a way to do it that's safe, convenient and desirable.
I try not to think about how much energy is sitting under my forearm when I'm running around playing paintball. Compressed gas is pretty effective, and very reliable. _________________ Don't be an iTard. |
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betasniper Tinker

Joined: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 35 Location: Corona, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Instead of trying to go tankless, I would try to figure out a way to make the energy density of something greater than compressed air. Propane is an example of that but has it's drawbacks. _________________ as i lay in bed, i looked at the stars and though, where the heck is my ceiling? |
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FirePro84 NewGuy

Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Vacaville, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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like the fact that it's flammable? heh.
didn't the tippy C3 pump claim something ridiculous like 50,000 shots on a 16oz propane tank? _________________ - Tim Firpo
- Viper84@jps.net
- Previously employed by: Palmers Pursuit Shop, Tracer PB, Foothill PB, Midway PB Xtreme, and Santa Clara PB.
- Currently fixing guns for Outfit Paintball in Vacaville, CA. (707) 447 - 3098
Recent Acquisitions: WDP '05 Angel Speed - Black |
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Surestick Tinker
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:26 am Post subject: |
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More like the heat generated when you burn it.
Too much heat and you'll have problems with the paint, I believe that's why Tippmann made the C3 a pump. _________________ Current markers:
Automag powerfeed left.
PGP w/some Palmer's love
WDP Angel Speed 03
Sheridan Piranha LB
PMI-III
Spyder Victor-II
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